Cycles in Reefs

Paul B

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I just baked a bunch of corn muffins and while they are cooling I thought of something.** (Yes I like to bake and do other things, But only Manly things, shoot me)
I was looking at some threads and I realize there is something that goes on in our tanks that is never discussed.
Cycles.
If you keep a tank long enough you will notice these cycles.** 5 years may not be long enough.** My tank has been getting cycles for it's entire life, some cycles last a few months and some last a few years.** There are times my tank was filled with leather corals and SPS, then it will all shrink with in a week or two and SPS corals will grow like crazy.** In a couple of years they may die back and hair algae will take over, then flatworms or Godzilla Larvae.
I believe these cycles are caused by three different things.** The first is coral wars.** Corals live in cycles that are controlled by the moon.** In most homes the corals can't "see" the moon, only the TV so I assume they get confused, especially if you watch a lot of Lady GaGa video's.** Corals exude chemicals to either attract other similar corals to settle near them and other chemicals to keep competing corals away.** Those chemicals stay in the water for varying amounts of time but occasionally it is too much for competing corals and they either shrink or die.** Then something else may take over that space and when it grows large enough it may exude it's own chemicals and kill the SPS.
This is the reason for many of the problems in tanks that have been running fine for many years.** (yes, skimmers probable remove some of these chemicals but work with me here)

The next cause of cycles are from bacteria.** Bacteria run our tanks, not us.** Bacteria are very good at what they do as long as we don't interfere with what they do by adding silly chemicals like antibiotics, copper, Prizapro, napalm etc.
But bacteria are living things with all of the problems we have.** OK, maybe not "all" the problems, I don't think they get acne,**but they**can be**infected by viruses as we are.
Depending on the Virus**some strains of bacteria may die while others may just lose their ability to dance.** But whatever happens, it effects the water and not always in a way we want.** **

The next thing is algae.** Many of us wrongly think of algae as a bad thing.** But if there was no algae your parents would never have been born and if they were not born, you may not have a job.** Algae is a good thing.** It makes oxygen, cleans pollutants from the water, and adds some chemicals.** Algae also grows inside corals and most corals can't live with out it.** If you succeed in eliminating all of your nutrients, you will also eliminate your corals.**** Adding chemicals to eliminate algae, bacteria or viruses is almost never a good idea as those cycles have a way of working themselves out.
After many years of tweeking I learned that sea water is very stable as long as I don't mess with it, and I never do.
I find these cycles interesting.

I forgot when I took this picture but it must have been in the late 80s or 90s.** That giant leather grew in a few months from an inch to a foot high.** Then after a few years shrunk down until is shriveled away.



SPS will grow for a few years, then die and allow something else to grow in it's place.



This giant mushroom grew from fingernail size to 10" across in weeks.** After a few years it disappeared.



No one wants this.** I also don't remember when this was and it was probably caused by something in the NSW I changed the water with.** But whatever caused it, I did nothing to eliminate all this algae.** I didn't do anything because that was the healthiest the tank ever was with everything spawning and the corals looking great.** When that cycle ended in a few weeks and the algae left on it's own, the water was perfect.** Algae knows how to purify water and if I would have added some sort of chemical to eliminate it I am certain the tank would have had all sorts of problems.
I probably just pulled it out and ran my diatom filter a few times.



One day I had this.



And before I knew it, I had this.



So I am trying to say, don't get crazy when these things happen.** Cycles happen much quicker in new tanks and as a tank ages get much farther apart.**
 
Good read, we can only hope our tanks last as long as yours has, oh and next time you have Godzilla larvae let us know so we can all take shelter!
 
Hello there S_Kelley. A new tank may have cycles every few weeks and last a few days which is the reason for all the "OMG, I GOT HAIR ALGAE, FLAT WORMS, CYANO, SPAGHETTI WORMS, BLACK ICH, WHITE ICH, ECRU ICH, VELVET, CRUSHED VELVET, ACNE AND MY TANK IS LEAKING. WHAT CHEMICAL SHOULD I ADD TO FIX ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE I GO TO FLORIDA FOR SPRING BREAK TOMORROW AFTERNOON AT 2:00PM".
 
Hello Paul looking through your photos noticed all the lamps they r awesome....do u make these and if so r they for sale?
 
Cfd65 thank you. I now have almost 10 finished, they are set to go in an art show in August. There I can sell them or people will bid on them, I am not sure yet how that works. This is the last one that I completely finished 100% and I have two after this that are almost done. I am also waiting for some parts to make a Steam Punk fish that I hope will be totally awesome so I may have to keep it myself. Most of these I can't replicate because the materials are hard to come by. This is a telephone box from the 40s.

 
Always a good read , when I have time to read a book lol. But everything you post up always makes sense. I cringe when people panic about algae and start dosing peroxide or taking out all the rock and scrubbing it , and now I've seen people are actually putting bleach in the tank
 
Reefstarter, I once wrote in a magazine (magazines were old, thin "books" that some people used to read before they went out foraging for food". They were made out of paper which is the same stuff we used to make trees out of)
To add Clorox to your tank water "After" all your livestock was either dead or you "removed it". Then you removed the Clorox with chlorine remover, waited a week and put the fish back in. My tank still has Clorox treated water in it.
Someone wrote to me complaining that "I" killed all his fish because he added a cup of Clorox to his "Tank full of fish".

I used to do that to purify the water and kill anything I wanted dead. It worked very well and I did it a few times when my tank was over run with parasites or anything else. ASW was hard to get then and I had to collect seawater which was a pain so I wanted to keep my water. I also didn't invent that, it was Robert Straughn the Father of Salt Water Fish Keeping.
 
Wow awesome stuff really like the fish one keep up the great work [emoji106]


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I was out in my boat this week and as I was eating a raw oyster and drinking a "Land Shark" beer something hit me. I mean after the seagull pooped on my head. The bay where I do most of my boating in the Long Island Sound also goes through cycles that last a few years.
Many years ago when I was a teenager, me and Lincoln would go fishing for flounders and for every flounder we caught we caught 2 or 3 sand sharks. Then eventually the sand sharks were replaced with bergalls, nasty little cunners that steal your bait and they are too small and bony to eat. Then the bergalls were replaced by porgies, which were a good thing as I kind of like eating them, not as much as I like flounders. But the flounders disappeared to be replaced by sea robins. I know some people eat those, but I would rather eat the seagull.

On the mud flats I used to collect steamer clams which aren't to bad to eat and they were extremely common. I haven't seen one of them in years except on my plate at a restaurant a few weeks ago.
The tide pool I go to to collect amphipods was always filled with hermit crabs. When my Daughter was young, I used to tell her we were going to Hermit Crab City. I have not seen a hermit crab there in a few years.
The only thing that never changes is horseshoe crabs. They are always there and everywhere although you can't eat them. If you could eat them, there would be none to be found.

The last time I went fluke fishing I got 18 of them. That was about 7 years ago, now the only fluke I see is in the Coney Island Aquarium.

For about 15 years I dove for lobsters and every dive I would get my limit of 6 of them. The lobsters all disappeared in one season and no one knows why.
Some years like two years ago I caught 80 blue claw crabs on one day. Last year I saw one, this year I see some young ones so maybe they are coming back.

I used to see Supermodels on the boats al the time, but in the last 3 or 4 years all I see is Rosanne Barr clones.
Of course I ain't getting any better looking either which is probably why the Supermodels are staying away. :confused:
But cycles are normal in our tanks and in the sea.

 
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