Miracle Mud

[Richard Kagen]

Thinking about adding to fuge, would start with 2 lbs in 120 gallon system. Anyone have personal experience with the product?

 

[FREAKINRICAN69]

I have never used but tagging along for info.

 

[BiGGiePauls33]

No personal experience but a metethod that I'm looking to implement has Reefers removing it as it breaks down there's elevated levels of time and aluminum that leeches out supposedly.

 

[mvallee]

I put it in my tank when I first started it and it was an awful silt that took forever to settle and everything was covered in it. I had it in the fuge section of my sump and everytime I did anything it would stir back up and cover everything in silt. It was a lot like the consistency of detritus when it builds up in the corners of the sump. I ended up getting the wet dry vac out after 6 months of dealing with it.
Others rave about it but from my experience I would not do it.

 

[PSU4ME]

I bought mud from Florida pets that seems to not be as bad. I keep it in trays in the fuge so it’s easy to remove. Take a look into that

 

[highfive52]

I have it in a bucket in my fuge. 5lbs. Getting ready to add more it's been 6 months. Bucket sits on 90 pounds reguluar sand, 15 lbs rock and cheato. Maybe that's why everything in my tank grows like weeds. Frags I cut last week look like mini colonies already. I'm not sure. But I do believe it has added stability to tank. No issues with silt. Covered while placing it in. My system a bit bigger than yours. Not by much tho. One of the old timers uses it as deep sand bed. I'll try in find video.

 

[highfive52]

 

[frank180reef]

I guess why add

 

[highfive52]

I guess why add

I dont know. But I'll leave it. Have half bag, gonna add it.

 

[BiGGiePauls33]

This is from 2015, Mike Paletta runs the Reef Moonshiner's method currently and has removed the mud due to elevated levels of tin and aluminum.

 

[PSU4ME]

Wonder if it comes from the 80% collected or the 20% added?

 

[BiGGiePauls33]

Wonder if it comes from the 80% collected or the 20% added?

Not sure, but I know of quite a lot of people that are seeing elevated levels of tin and aluminum and their ATI tests show those decreasing after removing the mud.

 

[dz6t]

Miracle mud has been debunked for years now.
According to Inland reef, it was mostly land based mud.
I personally classify it as snake oil, just my personal opinion.

 

[dz6t]

On the other hand, Fiji mud by Walt Smith is a natural mud in the ocean. It was supposedly harvested from a mud pool in Fiji.

 

[highfive52]

I think it's all a buncha bs. Lol.

 

[gobyvin]

Anything with words like miracle in the name is highly suspect to me. Stick with the tried and true. If you really want a flats ecosystem for a refugium, use oolitic fine aragonite sands, maybe kick it off with an order of live mud from a tropical collector.

 

[Richard Kagen]

Super helpful all, thanks.

 

[Puff Daddy]

I used it as a substrate to plant mangroves in. It works well for that. The mangroves do better than just anchored under some rocks. I did not notice any change in water quality or stability.

 

[steevareno]

I also have elevated levels of tin and aluminum from miracle mud. Guess I know what's on my to-do list for tomorrow arghhhh.