Haha that's a whole other discussion. Oh wait I think that discussion is over in advanced reef topics. I did the PAR meter with the halides before the switch, but haven't gotten back on the list to try it after. The main thing with LEDs is the spectrum. I think that explains the unhappy algae in my tank and also what Dong is describing. It's hard to supplement the spectrum with other emitters like red, cyan, etc because then you get into disco party territory. I should think of a creative solution and then patent it. Heh.If you have Led's you should also own a Par meter.