With Vortex it is the combination of lack of directional placement and the external motor/wires hanging of the side of the tank. If I had a in wall tank wouldn't be an issue but I just can't do the motor/wire hanging on the side of my tank.I like Tunze pumps, but have to admit, they don't have nearly the wide flow cone and undertow of a vortech. The vortechs are really good at keeping detritus stirred up, in the water column, where it can be exported by filtration. Other pumps do this as well and by other means, such as being able to direct the flow to specific areas. This may be just as beneficial in some cases, but I have to agree, the vortech is really effective at what it does...
Not sure if they figured out the settings but Tunze had a guideline based on tank length to gain a single or double wave. It got you close you just had to tune to where the pump was placed vs aquascape. Once you hit the sweet spot you can create a huge wave. I never liked the double wave, it was too much made everyone on edge when they looked at the tank, not relaxing that was for sure.I used a mp40 in a 72G bowfront and it was able to make this much wave action.
Where did you buy them? Are they really $400 plus?
Do you have multiple units? I'm not sure if the nutrient expert work effectively with just a single unit.
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i am sorry to tell you this but i had the Tunze's before and i forund that the MP40's have better impact on my thank may be each tank are different but nothing like this pump.... and yes you could do the wave mode with just one pump....Nutrient export mode LOL Tunze's have done that for years, with and without a wavebox. Not knocking Ecotech pumps just find it funny.
If you are not using a box to displace water a single pump will not effectively create wave motion.
I like Tunze pumps, but have to admit, they don't have nearly the wide flow cone and undertow of a vortech. The vortechs are really good at keeping detritus stirred up, in the water column, where it can be exported by filtration. Other pumps do this as well and by other means, such as being able to direct the flow to specific areas. This may be just as beneficial in some cases, but I have to agree, the vortech is really effective at what it does...
what mode do you use your vortech in? (color)
i am sorry to tell you this but i had the Tunze's before and i forund that the MP40's have better impact on my thank may be each tank are different but nothing like this pump.... and yes you could do the wave mode with just one pump....
With Vortex it is the combination of lack of directional placement and the external motor/wires hanging of the side of the tank. If I had a in wall tank wouldn't be an issue but I just can't do the motor/wire hanging on the side of my tank.
My point was not to knock the Vortech they are nice pump. It was the first pump to really bring any competition to Tunze with Quality and performance. Really comes down to preference and setup that works for you.