First Dowflake, now Magnesium...too cool - GROUP BUY FOR NOV MEETING
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stang8s
Cyber P
moe, i have no problem taking as many that need to go to the meeting there. We are just trying to narrow it down to who wants them at the meeting, who wants them here and who wants them at gregs house so we can get them split up and to the right places.
And rob said he would get some and bring them to his place if people wanted to get them there too
Jeff
And rob said he would get some and bring them to his place if people wanted to get them there too
Jeff
Randy Holmes-Farley
Well-Known Member
Greg:
Have you ever tested this material for ammonia? That's reportedly one of the concerns with MgCl2.
Have you ever tested this material for ammonia? That's reportedly one of the concerns with MgCl2.
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Greg Hiller
BRS Moderator
Randy,
Since I don't have any of it yet I cannot test it. I agree it is a concern, and that folks should not add too much all at once. As long as people do not add too much at once, the nitrifying bacteria in our systems should process any ammonia quickly to nitrate or nitrogen.
FWIW, the magnesium supplement that I made up using the Nigari magnesium chloride did not cause any problems in the tanks that I used it in, and I used it rather liberally. I did not check for ammonia in that, but I just mixed up the last bit of that, so I could. Of course I haven't checked for ammonia in about 5 years, so I doubt I have a test kit that still functions!
I realize the Nigari grade might be different, but I would suspect that the grade we are getting in this buy is likely of higher purity. Of course that still doesn't necessarily answer the quesiton of ammonia.
Since I don't have any of it yet I cannot test it. I agree it is a concern, and that folks should not add too much all at once. As long as people do not add too much at once, the nitrifying bacteria in our systems should process any ammonia quickly to nitrate or nitrogen.
FWIW, the magnesium supplement that I made up using the Nigari magnesium chloride did not cause any problems in the tanks that I used it in, and I used it rather liberally. I did not check for ammonia in that, but I just mixed up the last bit of that, so I could. Of course I haven't checked for ammonia in about 5 years, so I doubt I have a test kit that still functions!
I realize the Nigari grade might be different, but I would suspect that the grade we are getting in this buy is likely of higher purity. Of course that still doesn't necessarily answer the quesiton of ammonia.
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Greg Hiller
BRS Moderator
Good news and bad news:
Bad news first, the bags are going to cost $19.00 each.
Good news (I suppose) - each bag will contain an additional 10% of magnesium chloride, or 55 lbs instead of 50 lbs.
This is all due to the fact that the guy at the company that I spoke to did not understand that the industrial grade magnesium chloride is put into bags at 25 kg/bag (55 lbs). Also, the shipping charges increased from when he gave me the original quote. The original quote was for 48 - 50 lb bags or 2400 lbs, what he sent was 40 - 55 lb bags or 2200 lbs. So the total weight was a bit less, but the shipping was a bit more, so he did not change the original cost of the total shipment (still $760 - what I wrote him a check for).
Group buys like this never go perfectly smoothly. I tried to let several people into the buy even after the buy had already been completed. I hope you guys won't give me too much grief on this, remember, I'm not making a red cent.
So...anyhow, for those people that asked for more than one bag I may be lopping off a bag off your order. I'm not going to try and rebag this stuff. If anyone ordered an extra bag to help out early with the order, I appreciate it, and you might want to make the extra available for other folks.
If we need to in the future we can always do this again (though I'll try to get someone else to organize, lol).
Bad news first, the bags are going to cost $19.00 each.
Good news (I suppose) - each bag will contain an additional 10% of magnesium chloride, or 55 lbs instead of 50 lbs.
This is all due to the fact that the guy at the company that I spoke to did not understand that the industrial grade magnesium chloride is put into bags at 25 kg/bag (55 lbs). Also, the shipping charges increased from when he gave me the original quote. The original quote was for 48 - 50 lb bags or 2400 lbs, what he sent was 40 - 55 lb bags or 2200 lbs. So the total weight was a bit less, but the shipping was a bit more, so he did not change the original cost of the total shipment (still $760 - what I wrote him a check for).
Group buys like this never go perfectly smoothly. I tried to let several people into the buy even after the buy had already been completed. I hope you guys won't give me too much grief on this, remember, I'm not making a red cent.
So...anyhow, for those people that asked for more than one bag I may be lopping off a bag off your order. I'm not going to try and rebag this stuff. If anyone ordered an extra bag to help out early with the order, I appreciate it, and you might want to make the extra available for other folks.
If we need to in the future we can always do this again (though I'll try to get someone else to organize, lol).
Scuba_Dave
Non-member
Greg, I ordered (2), if you need one of them for someone else go ahead & take one
Thanx
Thanx
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Greg Hiller
BRS Moderator
Thanks Dave.
Randy Holmes-Farley
Well-Known Member
that folks should not add too much all at once. As long as people do not add too much at once, the nitrifying bacteria in our systems should process any ammonia quickly to nitrate or nitrogen.
I agree. Perhaps once we get it, someone can test it and see if boosting Mg++ from 1000 to 1300 ppm in one shot is a problem or not.
I agree. Perhaps once we get it, someone can test it and see if boosting Mg++ from 1000 to 1300 ppm in one shot is a problem or not.
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Greg Hiller
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Glad you volunteered Randy, very big of you.
Glad you volunteered Randy, very big of you.
stang8s
Cyber P
The new phone books are here, the new phone books are here!
I mean the Magnesium is here, the Magnesium is here!
Funny story. The trucker asked what it was for, his guess was construstion of some sort.. After I told him, he tells me he has a 54 gallon corner tank FOWLR. We got talking tanks and he came in and saw mine.. I told him about the club and about aqua addicts since he lives in methuen and has been shopping pet club mostly.
I mean the Magnesium is here, the Magnesium is here!
Funny story. The trucker asked what it was for, his guess was construstion of some sort.. After I told him, he tells me he has a 54 gallon corner tank FOWLR. We got talking tanks and he came in and saw mine.. I told him about the club and about aqua addicts since he lives in methuen and has been shopping pet club mostly.
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Greg Hiller
BRS Moderator
MickyB,
Thanks, that will free up some bags.
I believe you said you'd pick up at Jeff's place.
Thanks, that will free up some bags.
I believe you said you'd pick up at Jeff's place.
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Greg Hiller
BRS Moderator
I have most of the bags at my house, rather than emailing everybody again, could you folks that wanted to pick up at my place just email me (mag group buy at greghiller.com) regarding when you might be able to pick up. Best times for me are after 8:30 PM most nights, but mid-day on the weekends is also okay. Remember the bags are $19/each.
