FHW Oil Heat (no Electric Heater) Save big bucks.

[rtc_reefer]

No, I am soley using the AC III.

I cannot seem to log into the AC III right now (from the office) so I'll post that that tonight.

What do you need regarding the electrical?

 

[rtc_reefer]

What's the parts list and cost for this project?
I could in theory do this work myself

I just saw this.. sorry!

Part list (from memory):


1/2 inch flex tubing (red) 25 - 100 feet
Zone valve for heater zone
Copper piping to create zone to sump
lots of little pipe connectors
Solenoid as shown in prevous posts
Project box to house solenoid
AC III or other heater controller
Wire to connect the solenoid to on/off controller
Thermostat wire to connect solenoid to zone valve

I think that's about it.

 

[rtc_reefer]

my AC III program:
HET%-A01 // Heater (FHW)
SUM$-A02 // Sump Lights (CF)
RET#-A03 // Return Pump in Sump Room
CAR#-A04 // Ca Reactor Pump
FRG$-A05 // Frag Tank Light (MH)
FAN%-A06 // Cooling Fan over Sump
ATO&-A07 // ATO Interval Switch
CO2&-A08 // CO2 Solenoid on Ca Reactor
ALM&-A09 // Alarm for Email - IM
MH1$-B02 // MH Left Main Tank - B01 had noise
MH2$-B13 // MH Right Main Tank
ACT$-B03 // VHO Actinic Main Tank
WAV#-B04 // Wave Maker
ALH&-C01 // Alarm for House
KAP#-B11 // Kalk Pump (Intervals)
HT2%-B12 // Backup heater




If Time > 00:00 Then ALM OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then ALH OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then FAN OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then RET ON
If Time > 00:00 Then CAR ON
If Time > 00:00 Then WAV ON
If Time > 00:00 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then CO2 ON
If Time > 00:00 Then HT2 OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then HET OFF
If Temp > 85.5 Then MH1 OFF
Max Change 020 M Then MH1 OFF
If Temp > 86.5 Then MH2 OFF
Max Change 020 M Then MH2 OFF
If Power 000 Then ALM ON
If Power 000 Then ACT OFF
Max Change 005 M Then ACT OFF
If Power 000 Then MH1 OFF
Max Change 010 M Then MH1 OFF
If Power 000 Then MH2 OFF
Max Change 020 M Then MH2 OFF
If Time > 01:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 01:15 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 09:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 09:15 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 16:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 16:15 Then ATO OFF
If Temp < RT+-0.4 Then HET ON
If Temp > RT+0.0 Then HET OFF
If Temp < RT+-1.4 Then HT2 ON
If Temp > RT+-1.0 Then HT2 OFF
If Temp > RT+2.6 Then FAN ON
If Temp < RT+1.5 Then FAN OFF
If Temp > 85.0 Then ALM ON
If Temp > 85.0 Then ALH ON
If Temp < 75.0 Then ALM ON
If Temp < 75.0 Then ALH ON
If pH < 06.48 Then CO2 OFF
Max Change 010 M Then CO2 OFF
If pH < 06.43 Then ALM ON
If pH < 06.43 Then ALH ON
If pH2 < 07.72 Then CO2 OFF
Max Change 030 M Then CO2 OFF
If pH2 > 08.60 Then ALM ON
If pH2 < 07.65 Then ALM ON
If Sun 100/125 Then ACT ON
If Sun 110/115 Then MH2 ON
If Sun 120/110 Then MH1 ON
If Time > 08:00 Then FRG OFF
If Time > 21:00 Then FRG ON
If Time > 10:00 Then SUM OFF
If Time > 18:00 Then SUM ON
If Time > 03:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 03:10 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 07:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 07:10 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 14:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 14:10 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 20:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 20:10 Then KAP OFF

 

[paulthomas]

Since it's a tad chilly outside...

I wanted to know how you guys, who took this project on, were doing with it? Are you saving a small fortune in not having to run sub. heaters? And more importantly, are you making up for it in oil heating costs?

I've got a brontosaurus of a furnace and am wondering if this is a viable option for me. I do have asbestos everywhere though.

Paul

 

[Aquadiva]

Bump for any updates....

 

[coralcor]

verry fancy! and great idea. its like the way they heat floors. you put down like 1/4 tubing in plywood. then push hot water threw it to heat your floor....

 

[rtc_reefer]

Bump for any updates....

Working flawlessly now since I installed it. Have yet to even touch it.

However If I was to do it again... I'd only use about 10 - 20 feet of tubing.

However I have a 800 watt backup electric heater and then a backup - backup 250 watt but they never come on...

updated ACIII program showing how these work:

OIL%-B09
HET%-B12
HT2%-A01
RET#-A03
CO2&-B13
CAR#-B14
FRG$-A05
FAN%-A06
ATO&-A07
MH1$-D09
MH2$-D13
ACT$-D16
QTN$-B15
SUM$-A02
WAV#-D11
ALH&-C01
ALM&-A09
KAP#-B11
EXH%-B10
CFN%-D10
SKM#-A08


If Time > 00:00 Then ALM OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then ALH OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then FAN OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then CFN OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then RET ON
If Time > 00:00 Then CAR ON
If Time > 00:00 Then SKM ON
If Time > 00:00 Then WAV ON
If Time > 00:00 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then CO2 ON
If Time > 00:00 Then OIL OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then HT2 OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then HET OFF
If Time > 00:00 Then EXH ON
If Time > 00:00 Then QTN OFF
If Time > 11:57 Then RET OFF
If Time > 12:10 Then RET ON
If Time > 11:57 Then WAV OFF
If Time > 12:10 Then WAV ON
If Temp > 85.5 Then MH1 OFF
Max Change 020 M Then MH1 OFF
If Temp > 86.5 Then MH2 OFF
Max Change 020 M Then MH2 OFF
If Power 000 Then ALM ON
If Power 000 Then ACT OFF
Max Change 005 M Then ACT OFF
If Power 000 Then MH1 OFF
Max Change 010 M Then MH1 OFF
If Power 000 Then MH2 OFF
Max Change 020 M Then MH2 OFF
If Time > 01:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 01:15 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 06:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 06:15 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 06:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 06:15 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 13:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 13:15 Then ATO OFF
If Time > 19:00 Then ATO ON
If Time > 19:15 Then ATO OFF
If Temp < RT+-0.3 Then OIL ON
If Temp > RT+-0.1 Then OIL OFF
If Temp < RT+-0.5 Then HT2 ON
If Temp > RT+-0.2 Then HT2 OFF
If Temp < RT+-1.0 Then HET ON
If Temp > RT+-0.5 Then HET OFF
If Temp > RT+2.6 Then FAN ON
If Temp > RT+1.0 Then CFN ON
If Temp > 85.0 Then ALM ON
If Temp > RT+4.5 Then ALM ON
If Temp > RT+4.5 Then ALH ON
If Temp > 85.0 Then ALH ON
If Temp < 73.0 Then ALM ON
If Temp < 74.0 Then ALH ON
If Time > 11:50 Then CAR OFF
If Time > 12:15 Then CAR ON
If Time > 11:50 Then SKM OFF
If Time > 12:15 Then SKM ON
If Time > 11:50 Then CO2 OFF
If Time > 12:15 Then CO2 ON
If pH < 06.60 Then CO2 OFF
Max Change 010 M Then CO2 OFF
If pH2 < 07.50 Then CO2 OFF
Max Change 010 M Then CO2 OFF
If pH2 > 08.60 Then ALM ON
If pH2 < 07.35 Then ALM ON
If pH2 > 08.60 Then ALH ON
If pH2 < 07.35 Then ALH ON
If Sun 100/125 Then ACT ON
If Sun 110/115 Then MH2 ON
If Sun 120/110 Then MH1 ON
If Sun 100/125 Then FRG ON
If Sun 100/125 Then QTN ON
If Time > 10:00 Then SUM OFF
If Time > 18:00 Then SUM ON
If Time > 03:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 03:10 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 07:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 07:10 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 14:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 14:10 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 20:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 20:10 Then KAP OFF
If Time > 23:00 Then KAP ON
If Time > 23:50 Then KAP OFF
If Temp < 64.0 Then OIL OFF
If Temp < 64.0 Then HET OFF
If Temp < 64.0 Then HT2 OFF

 

[Aquadiva]

Cool... any estimate on $$ saved. I know oil was a bit expensive last year, but were you able to draw any comparisons.

 

[Jim Tansey]

The bet is that you can heat it with oil, even employing the use of a recirculation pump, cheaper than electric, I'm not convinced its worth the effort.

Jim

 

[rtc_reefer]

The bet is that you can heat it with oil, even employing the use of a recirculation pump, cheaper than electric, I'm not convinced its worth the effort.

Jim

It's very difficult to determine savings. I know that since my electric heaters never come on... I have just removed a point of failure. (those electric heaters seem to short and fail all the time).