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[necco]

I like the Sawsall, I used it when I was a plumbers apprentice. I can cut very small pieces with it no problem, you just need a good grip . I used 1" for my durso, and also used 45's to fandangle my 3/4" return through the overflow. The only problem with that route is if you ever have to change or do maintence on that return you can't get it out, because of the 45's they the pipe is to wide to unscrew out of the overflow.

 

[Moe_K]

I merged my latest thread in here.
Now I just gotta plumb the return lines, then figure out what to do with the end of the 2" drain line as it dumps into the sump (a 100g Rubbermaid horse trough). I've seen people use a bucket to make a bubble trap. Gotta research that one.

 

[Tstone]

I merged my latest thread in here.
Now I just gotta plumb the return lines, then figure out what to do with the end of the 2" drain line as it dumps into the sump (a 100g Rubbermaid horse trough). I've seen people use a bucket to make a bubble trap. Gotta research that one.

I used a 5 gal bucket for my bubble trap on my basement sump. I drilled 5 or six 1 1/2" holes in the side of the 5 gal bucket. Water flowed out clear and easy.

 

[Tstone]

For cutting pipe, have you tried a PVC cutter? I have made thousands of cuts with one and they are perfectly square, no burrs, zero dust and you can cut 3/8" off at a time. They also cut spa flex, pp/pe/vinyl tubing perfectly.

This is a great tool for PVC pipe of any kind.

Easy to use and is a no brainer

 

[MikeG]

Moe, the durso should fit with the elbow pointed toward the outside corner of the tank. The street elbow will be just about touching the glass on the side and back panes. That is how mine is and I used 1.25" PVC. I can take a pic if needed.

 

[Moe_K]

Yeah, Mike. Can you post a pic? That'd help a bunch.
I may have to trim off some of the T and maybe a little of the Street L.

 

[MikeG]

I don't think I had to trim either, like I said it is a real close fit

 

[MikeG]

and a full shot

 

[nichols]

I merged my latest thread in here.
Now I just gotta plumb the return lines, then figure out what to do with the end of the 2" drain line as it dumps into the sump (a 100g Rubbermaid horse trough). I've seen people use a bucket to make a bubble trap. Gotta research that one.

Moe this has worked very well for me. My water drops stright about 10' on the way to the sump and I get no bubbles in my tank returns. As a added bonus it's cheap!!!

 

[Moe_K]

Thanks, Mike.
I looked at your pics, then tried it. Tight, but still no go.
So I trimmed up the T and the L with the band saw. The Dursos are in there now, and out of the way of the return lines. Sweeet.

 

[Moe_K]

Moe this has worked very well for me. My water drops stright about 10' on the way to the sump and I get no bubbles in my tank returns. As a added bonus it's cheap!!!

Just a laundry basket, Bill? No tricks there? Those are filter socks on the ends of the pipes, right? Is that also for bubble control?

 

[nichols]

Just a laundry basket, Bill? No tricks there? Those are filter socks on the ends of the pipes, right? Is that also for bubble control?

I don't use the socks any more. I just suck out the detrus when I do a water change. I do a 35 gal change weekly. I just have some rock rubble in the bottom of the waste basket for weight. It really does work for me.

 

[Moe_K]

I don't use the socks any more. I just suck out the detrus when I do a water change. I do a 35 gal change weekly. I just have some rock rubble in the bottom of the waste basket for weight. It really does work for me.

Ah ha. It's a solid bucket with holes cut into it.
I thought it was a laundry basket.

 

[Scuba_Dave]

I have a round bucket that I use also - originally created by Greg Hiller
It has worked very well

I have several of the buckets, they are what I buy my chlorine in for the pool
I haven't used any of the other (chlorine) buckets for anything that goes in the tank. Just for removing stuff & draining water

I'm not sure how long the chlorine will last?
I know people bleach rock & then use it
and I know chlorine "dissipates/evaporates" out of the pool very quickly

 

[nichols]

I have a round bucket that I use also - originally created by Greg Hiller
It has worked very well

I have several of the buckets, they are what I buy my chlorine in for the pool
I haven't used any of the other (chlorine) buckets for anything that goes in the tank. Just for removing stuff & draining water

I'm not sure how long the chlorine will last?
I know people bleach rock & then use it
and I know chlorine "dissipates/evaporates" out of the pool very quickly

Might be alright, but why take a chance when you can buy a kitchen waste basket for 3 bucks?

 

[Moe_K]

Cleaned out the sump tonight. I'll let it dry tomorrow.

Gotta get some lock line. Anyone know where I can pick some up, cheap?

That brings me to another question...
For the return lines, I am plumbed up to the bulkheads. There will be a 3/4" line on each side. I didn't glue or Teflon tape the Dursos.

I assume we want to glue the return lines from the bulkheads to the lockline, correct?

 

[MikeG]

yes, you don't want those working themselves loose over time from the pressure and coming off when you aren't around.

 

[dedfish]

glue the loc-line to the bulkheads? I wouldn't. I've had a 20L with 2 bulkheads in the back with loc-line screwed into the bulkheads. I can't screw them in all the way...there is no way they are going to work loose. It's been 2 years and when I do occasionaly remove them it's tough. If the bulkhead and loc-line are completely underwater I would not glue it.

 

[Moe_K]

glue the loc-line to the bulkheads? I wouldn't. I've had a 20L with 2 bulkheads in the back with loc-line screwed into the bulkheads. I can't screw them in all the way...there is no way they are going to work loose. It's been 2 years and when I do occasionaly remove them it's tough. If the bulkhead and loc-line are completely underwater I would not glue it.

I guess I coulda been clearer...
The bulkheads are in the bottom of the overflow, of course. There will be a 22" length of 3/4" PVC from the bulkhead to the top of the overflow. From there, I'll use loc-line.
So, I assume I glue the PVC into the bulkhead, correct?
And what about gluing the loc-line to the PVC?

Anyone know where to get cheap loc-line?

 

[JohnK]

My adivce would be to glue nothing inside the overflow, it doesn't matter if the loc line has a tiny leak inside the overflow, and same with the duroso. The worst thing that would happen would be the overflow draining in the case of a power outage, just have room for an extra gallon or two in the sump and no problem.

For outside of (below)the tank I would plan it one way or another so that everything can be disassembled. If any plumbing is cemented you'll eventually need to cut it out to clean, not fun. I usually use threaded bulkheads, seal with teflon tape, then add a unuion very close to the bulkhead, and cement everything after the unuion. This way everything can be removed easily but is also sealed well.